Kurosai
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Post by Kurosai on Oct 25, 2013 4:40:59 GMT -5
Technique Name: [Genki Touzoku no Jutsu] | [Vitality Thief Technique] Technique's Label: Personal Technique Prerequisites: None. Rank: B-Rank Type: Kekkai Ninjutsu, Chakra Absorption Elemental Nature: None. Hand-Seals: U → Uma → Tora → Palm Slam Speed of Technique: None. Chakra Consumption: Medium → Immense Description: Medium Consumption: This technique is utilized with a pre-existing Kekkai Ninjutsu Formula. By slamming their palm ontop of a pre-exisitng Kekkai Ninjutsu Formula, it expands the same distance as the Kekkai Ninjutsu with an entirely different set of formula letters. It is then connected with the user of he technique, and causes it to drain the chakra of whatever is within the confines of the barrier that is not the users chakra signature. It deducts chakra from an individual per post, by following the formula listed below: GCR > RCR: D% = R% + [(2/5)RD]R%
GCR < RCR: D% = R% - [(2/5)RD]R%
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[/blockquote][/blockquote] Technique Name: [Fukyuu Kousoku no Jutsu] | [Immortal Restriction Technique] Technique's Label: Personal Technique Prerequisites: None. Rank: A-Rank Type: Genjutsu Elemental Nature: None Hand-Seals: Inu → I → Ushi → Palm Slam Speed of Technique: None Chakra Consumption: Medium Description: This technique is optimal in utilizing for interrogation and torture. It needs a clear line of sight of the victim and a proximity of 20m. The user slams their hands upon the ground from both sides of the victim, earth walls will appear and then a ceiling will close almost instantly, as the ground erupts of pure earth, giving the appearance of a doton technique, and adding to its realistic nature. It is a brown square room that is 10m by meters, a perfect square, and in that radius of the technique, anyone caught within that 10m will be exposed to the Jutsu.
Within this square, the opponents mind is tricked into thinking that they are confided into a barrier, and even if they touch it[like a mine touching the air] or inspect it from afar they won't find any in-corrections or imperfections, their own individual mind will compensate for any details that would naturally give the cubic illusion a falsehood. Their vision is dimmed to give the illusion that the cracks within the walls are giving them a source of light, as a barrier that had cracks would, and thus even more adding to the illusion. This, however, is a perfect weakness in and of itself, only capable of being found out by the most logical of individuals. However, they will incapable of escaping, even if Jutsu is utilized to attack the cube, a space-time warp will appear and absorb any technique they throw at it; albeit, in reality, it will simply phase through the illusion. This is also a weakness of the barrier that can only be found out by a specific type of attack.
It is not sound proof, as such, the user will hear everything that occurs out in the real world, even the users speech, however, everything appears distorted in nature, as if you're listening to the outside world within a box, adding to the illusion. If the victim did try to physical force their way through the box or touch it in anyway, their body would experience a harsh pain that is comparable to that of a kunai through the chest which attempts to paralyze the body and give an instinct that "touching is bad," a conditioning technique if they attempt it multiple times, however, the reason this occurs is due to the fact that touching the illusion itself for too long, the function established in the brain is that anything that is pushed through will phase, as such, their hand would phase through and then their body simply by mental established belief, another weakness within the Genjutsu itself, of course, they must've seen he warp before touching.
After establishing that they are trapped, the user can add chakra consumption and verbal psychological warfare to interrogate the enemy or demoralize them, perhaps even angry them to wasting their chakra at nothing, or even torture them. The user can then use various illusionary techniques with varying chakra consumptions to heighten the illusion.
[/u][/ul]: [/ul] [/u]:[/ul] [/ul] [/u]:[/ul] [/ul] Note: Only one can be chosen per consumption. The user of this technique can even enter the barrier to fortify that they control the barrier and it is indeed not an illusion, in the similar appearance of Iwagakure no Jutsu. The user can also change the room to be from any material, even steel, fire, wind, water, whatever they wish to maintain, but that has to be decided from execution. This technique has all weaknesses of Genjutsu [/blockquote][/justify][/blockquote][/blockquote]
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unbeing
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Post by unbeing on Oct 26, 2013 13:18:32 GMT -5
Overall very interesting and versatile ideas, but there are some mistakes.
Vitality Thief The way you write this, it sounds as if the barrier is programmed to analyze everyone's chakra signature detectable within it to draw out exactly 4% from each one, regardless of the volume of their Reserves. This is why your formula is a little weird and why it didn't make sense to me when I saw it. Stick to the universal Chakra Conversion formula, which is made so that the Deducted chakra from another individual is dependent on the chakra Received by the user (as in, the formula is designed so that an Absorption or Transfer is set when the receiver has received a specific amount of chakra, and the chakra Deducted from the Giver is dependent on this). Btw, it would be "formula runes", not "letters".
Immortal Restriction The concept seems right for B-Rank, but in-depth the technique itself is so incredibly complex that it seems like it would be A-Rank while requiring Genjutsu Spec. There are also a lot of writing errors; I suggest you read over it carefully and rewrite the description slowly. As a note I would also suggest that you write out the description step-by-step. For example, at the end you state that the barrier could be made of anything in the victim's mind which would require the decision of inventing the barrier's composition to be made at the execution of the technique. This should be something that was stated at the beginning of the description, not at the end.
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Kurosai
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Post by Kurosai on Oct 27, 2013 17:18:08 GMT -5
I finally remembered the flaw with the equation i couldn't point out before. It's the need for a variable which can't be determined due to the difference the equation emphasizes itself, aka, D% / Deducted Percentage. When absorbing, as you said you got confused cause it seems like the technique absorbs a certain amount of chakra from individuals and gives it to the user aka the pre-determined R%[of my old formula] Which is the deducted amount of the "non-user" would be incalculable due to that very reason.
Using your formula, the D% can't be calculated, unless the D% variable is determined in the technique itself, and what my technique was originally supposed to do, and what it does is calculates the 4% of the users[Me] total CR, and deduct it from the non-user, and determine the deducted amount from their reserves while i would always gain 4% per post. Which would have added the much needed R% Variable to my [or D% for yours] equation and allow for the equation to not be missing an important variable.
R = Received Chakra of User. D = Chakra Deducted from Non-User Reserves. RD = Rank Difference.
Your Formula with a Set Percentage Deducted From The Opponent I would just utilize the example, so just go to the example you have previous written, if the set percentage deducted is 20% with a RD of 2.
However, since i might just be overlooking some key point about variable incompatibility, i'll change it back to the original formula, remove the percentage deducted, and ask you to show me an example of how your formula would work with this technique which absorbs chakra without my D% / R% variable[that i utilized in my rewritten formula] predetermined or set.
Because, no matter what i do, there will be a need to set the amount either received or deducted[which was how my jutsu was written] as you said was confusing: "The way you write this, it sounds as if the barrier is programmed to analyze everyone's chakra signature detectable within it to draw out exactly 4% from each one, regardless of the volume of their Reserves. This is why your formula is a little weird and why it didn't make sense to me when I saw it." I would like to see how it'll be done without the automatic deduction or receiving amount being set, and not simply from an example with random numbers which supports that an automatic deduction or receive amount needs to be set to work.
[Note: Sorry about the tone, lol, i finally remembered what was flawed about the formula. The need for a set deduction or received percentage, unlike with normal chakra transfer, the chakra given isn't selective, and if it was, the equation itself would collapse due to inequality. Not to mention, giving the opponent / yourself total control over the others reserves.]
Also, did you know that when you apply the > or < it ends up equal?
R% = D% - [(2/5)RD]D% R% = 20% - [2/5]-2]20% R% = 20% - [-4/5]20% R% = 20% - [-16%] R% = 20% + 16% R% = 36%.
This is going by the GCR < RCR, yet to RCR still ends up with 16% more received than from the GCR had deducted despite being -2 Ranks below. Which is an INTENSE Flaw. However, remove the - and keep a singular equation and it ends up like this:
R% = 20% + [(2/5)-2]20% R% = 20% + [-4/5]20% R = 20% + [-16%] R = 4%.
Your first mistake in the creation of the equation was believing that you needed to create an opposite formula for both sides, instead, like most mathematical equations that exist, a singular formula can resolve issues in both states of being, negative or positive with an accurate number and consistent variables to be input. As R = 4% is correct received percentage.
As for my other technique, i will re-write it and make it Genjutsu Spec, but...is it possible to keep it B-Rank? As most of the words were covering the basis of metagame capability, and the technique should be B! lol, but i don't mind if it's A-Rank, just want to request that it remain B-Rank for less auto-win. I'll change it to A-Rank until you say something, if you don't want it changed, don't mention it. I should be done with the rewrites after you've replied to the flaw of Conversion, either to clarify a misconception i may have, or to admit.
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Post by Kin Saō on Oct 27, 2013 19:57:43 GMT -5
Hm... Who would've thought this site would become so complicated? I can't keep track of what you say in the first paragraph. It's huge bruh, you do little effort of organizing your thoughts, or just fail at it -o-
Anyways, it made some sense. We'll have to talk about this one in private.
After the Note though, there's a mistake. I think it's my fault because the "Difference" in Rank Difference didn't actually refer to subtraction. It's more like, counting the ranks between each CR rank. So you did actual subtraction, and got a negative result for RD, which causes a change in the positive/negative sign in the result of the parentheses. Since I didn't intend to mean actual subtraction by "Rank Difference", there would never be a negative number for RD, so the conjugate formula is in fact needed.
And now the big decision, change it to mean actual subtraction with Rank Difference, or keep it as it is and clear up the doubt? -o-
But yeah, just tell me when you've rewritten the Genjutsu.
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